LeBron James’ first appearance on the “New Heights” podcast with Kansas City Chiefs’ Travis Kelce and his brother, retired Philadelphia Eagles center Jason Kelce, was released Wednesday. And when a legendary NBA player talks to two legendary NFL players, the topic of NBA vs. NFL had to come up.

This conversation focused on Christmas, traditionally known as the NBA holiday. However, in recent years the NFL has repeatedly tried to make December 25th a football holiday.

“Who owns Christmas?” Jason asked LeBron. “Because in your opinion, ‘I love the NFL, but Christmas belongs to the NBA,'” LeBron hits home with his own quote from Dec. 25 that despite the NFL’s best efforts, Christmas is still the NBA’s day.

LeBron talks big, but he knows what’s real and what’s not.

“I saw the damn numbers after the fact,” LeBron said. “You all kicked our asses. Understood? OK? As far as viewership goes, you’ve all been kicking our asses. The games weren’t as great as they should have been.”

And don’t forget that LeBron says this about the games, even though his Los Angeles Lakers beat the Golden State Warriors 115-113 on Christmas Day.

Although Travis said he thought it was a “pretty good game,” LeBron touched on the main reason that may have caused viewers to turn off the NBA and turn on the NFL: Beyoncé.

“When damn Beyoncé comes out there, Pat Mahomes and Travis, you go and kick Pittsburgh’s ass.”

It’s hard to say that Beyoncé’s incredible country-themed NBA halftime show didn’t turn some heads. It’s Beyoncé, after all, and she performed in the middle of a game between the Houston Texans and the Chiefs, who are currently trying to win their third straight Super Bowl.

LeBron insisted he wasn’t ignoring reality when he said “Christmas is NBA day” on Dec. 25. He simply felt the need to defend his own league and sport against a more powerful opponent.

“You know, when you go out there and you have your little brother and he gets beaten up one time and you’re like, ‘Hey! We haven’t lost this fight! We are here and we will stay here!’ ‘ I had to get up. I had to advocate for the NBA.