Mark Zuckerberg basically thinks of his bunker as just a “basement.”

The Meta CEO spoke with The race trackEmily Chang’s Emily Chang on his Hawaiian estate, which has long been the subject of speculation due to its massive size and extreme security measures. Zuckerberg, 40, said the bunker was nothing more than “a little shelter,” a basement or a refuge from hurricanes.

“I think the whole thing has been blown out of proportion, like the whole ranch is some kind of doomsday bunker,” he said of his Hawaii property. “It’s just not true.”

In the interview, Zuckerberg said he ranches on Kauai. He wants to produce “the highest quality beef in the world,” he said, which involves a vertical integration plan — including growing macadamia nuts on-site and brewing beer because it increases the cows’ appetite.

The billionaire’s ranching comments reference some of the findings in Wired‘s investigation into his estate in Hawaii in 2023. In addition to the various agricultural structures, the site features a collection of 11 treehouses connected by hanging bridges, an underground bunker with a concrete-filled metal door, and several guesthouses.

The main structures will be two villas, the outlet reported, which will include a “gym, pools, sauna, hot tub, cold water pool and tennis court.”

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The bunker, loud Wiredis 5,000 square meters in size and is connected to the two villas by a tunnel. It will accommodate mechanical equipment, living areas and an escape hatch, and its door will resemble bomb shelter doors.

Accordingly Wired, Zuckerberg’s estate has caused tensions with locals and indigenous groups on the island. Although he and his family have donated to local charities and community programs, their presence remains controversial.